User talk:Magioladitis

„,Woran arbeiten Sie?‘, wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete: ,Ich habe viel Mühe, ich bereite meinen nächsten Irrtum vor.“

This is Magioladitis's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8: 2 days

AutoWikiBroswer wins Coolest Tool Award 2020![edit]

Pointless edits[edit]

Hi! It seems that you're using AWB to make pointless edits again. I thought you'd undertaken to stop doing that as a condition of being unblocked? This edit made no perceptible difference to the displayed page; there was nothing broken, what did you think you were fixing? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Sorry. I had a workshop in the Hackathon and I was experimenting to show people some stuff. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, there will a new version of AWB to avoid the talk header -> Talk header change in the future. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK on the first bit – though wouldn't it have been more productive to show them how to make a useful edit? On the second part, a new version that made no trivial changes of that kind at all would be welcome indeed! Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well i used the talk page to show how a template rename xan be done to avoid disruption on mainspace. I also crested a dummy article page and i requested speedy deletion. The problem with talk page fixes on awb is that they don't work in sandbox unfortunately. Magioladitis (talk) 14:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple punctuation marks[edit]

Hi Magioladitis. Thanks for your edits dealing with punctuation around references. I’ve only looked at a few of them but in [1], [2], and (debatably) [3], the edit left two punctuation marks next to each other, for example a semicolon immediately followed by a comma. There may be others – I’ve only looked at a few. It may well be caused by an editing tool you’re using but please check the preview and fix if necessary before saving the edits. Thanks :) --Northernhenge (talk) 21:35, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment. You are right, in some cases, double punctuation marks appear but my problem is that is sometimes difficult to decide which one is correct. And if you cases I have cases I have reformulated the sentence. I left some cases to more experts. Magioladitis (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added this feature request to improve AWB's logic. This might help a bit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note to myself: There many cases out there [4] that we may need an extra tool to just search for double punctuation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are currently over 500 pages with ,; or ,; before a <ref>. I’ve been slowly working through them but I wouldn’t know how to automatically choose the comma or the semicolon. It depends on the context and what other punctuation is being used in the vicinity. (I’m also finding examples of lists using a mixture of colons and semicolons, sometimes for understandable reasons but sometimes not.) The most urgent thing is to identify scripts that create the double punctuation problem so the number can stop increasing. A human could cause the problem by deleting a member from a list, but my gut feeling is that most of the problems were caused by scripts, or at least humans not checking what the script was doing. --Northernhenge (talk) 18:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is indeed a very difficult task to fix these because in some cases it is also a misuse of a ref tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go at fixing Richard Mille, which you messed up in this way. The solution is pretty obvious - just don't try to automate when it produces silly results. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I try to fix many of these by myself. I am sometimes puzzled about the use of ", and" syntax which is not common in Greek for instance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve just fixed Python (programming language). I’m surprised you’re still causing these problems. You’re turning a small problem into a bigger one that is then much harder to fix. The edits could be considered disruptive. Please stop. --Northernhenge (talk) 16:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Northernhenge I stopped. How about I fix only when after the edit there is be no double punctuation i.e. no ",.<" or ".,<" etc. What do you think? -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at your edit to Pound sterling, in the section headed “Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories”, you changed ; into ;, and the edit was tagged AWB. I wonder if there is a problem with AWB. Is it failing to recognise semicolons as punctuation? Whatever script you are using, I suggest getting it fixed before continuing with it. --Northernhenge (talk) 18:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I ma using custom module to get a warning when my edit creates a double punctuation so I can check manually and fix it. I guess I have to update my list. The older problem of saving a page without fixing anything is now 100% fixed. I am going to work on the direction of double punctuation now. Thanks for the feedback. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]