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So grateful to meet you[edit]

I am so thankful for your perspective in the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America and my talk page. I'm surprised we haven't crossed paths before. --ARose Wolf 20:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's very sweet of you. I feel the same way.

For fun, I checked the Editor Interaction Analyzer: You contributed to an article I expanded John Jolly starting from this version, we've posted on the many of the same user talk pages, and a handful of articles about Native Americans that we both edited a bit.

I worked on Sam Houston and Native American relations and it would be interesting to get your thoughts on it. I have written so many articles about native peoles of the southwestern United States, but many have been long ago now and could probably due with some updating. I have a number of other historical, biographical, and women's history niches. It will be nice to learn more about you.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, back in my early days. I started out at the Cherokee Wikipedia back in 2020 and was invited to the English Wikipedia to edit some articles and been here since then. I helped expand the Cherokee Template and added it to several articles. John Jolly was one. You can email me anytime. Although I may not respond right away I will most definitely respond as soon as I am able. --ARose Wolf 11:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ARoseWolf, The Cherokee and their history was really interesting. Sure re: the emailing. I have a hard time keeping up with email, so it's good we can level-set that we both aren't quick repliers there. It's an amazing day today. I hope it's good for you.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the thermometer it is 36°F and it is quite overcast but no precipitation yet. Typical Spring day. :) --ARose Wolf 16:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are well meaning and you are trying to address an issue you see. I don't fault you in the slightest. I also don't question why you are trying. Flo mentioned that the Wikiproject seems rigid and I do sort of agree with that. We get attacked from both sides. I was literally mentioned as the focal point of an attack piece projecting me as someone that attacks new editors when that new editor was part of an organized attempt to change policy based edits because they didn't like them. I get attacked because I'm not "Native" enough or supportive of Native life experiences. I've been attacked because I am too "Native" and I support Native experiences too much. I've been called a fraud. I've been called disingenuous and had my motives challenged. My experiences are downplayed when no one has ever dared to ask about my experiences. They take parting shots at me and I take it. You know why? Because I am a volunteer editor just trying to make Wikipedia better. I can take the criticism because I am confident in who I am. I've made a ton of mistakes, especially early on as an editor. But I have learned and I have never said I am definitively right. My experiences are my own. Just as others are theirs. Other editors on the project are feeling a bit frayed. I can see it. I miss some of our members that have left even though I clashed with a few of them sometimes. It was never in bad faith and I have taken on their thoughts. I don't want this to turn into a long discussion so I may email you with some details. Suffice to say, I like to work with the editors on the project and I don't like when we clash. Lately, editing hasn't been that fun. --ARose Wolf 13:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my goodness, ARoseWolf, this made me cry. I am so sorry that your identity - as well as your experiences, intentions, and capabilities - were attacked. I am so glad that you are confident in who you are! Apparently I could use more of that. I couldn't believe the attack against you when I read it, it didn't make any sense.

Perhaps I got lumped in with someone who tried to change "policy based edits". Reading between the lines, I can see my approach may have been too rigid.

Thank you so much for posting here. I didn't want to put you in the middle and was going to wait awhile before asking two individuals how I could help better (better help?). I will look for your email.–CaroleHenson (talk) 13:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]